The veg Grower podcast  0:04  
Hello, and welcome to Episode 403 of the veg grower podcast. My name is Richard, and I'm trying to grow off fruit, vegetable and Herbes in my garden and my allotment. Now coming up today, something I've been interested in for quite a while is community gardening. And I've taken a trip up to a community garden project to find out what's happening. That's coming up in just a moment. But first, as always, we have the diary with what I've been up to.

It is Saturday, the 26th of June 2021. I've just realised it's coming up to the end of June, hasn't it flown by hasn't this year just flying by. Now I'm down on the allotment at the moment and this has been my second visit today. This morning, I made my first visit now I came down here with the view I'm gonna harvest Michelle lots and harvest my onions, which I did, and these two beds have been pretty weedy this year, which is probably show me time that actually these beds need a good weed out in a remote which I'm going to do while they are empty now. I realised these two beds are the first two beds that were built which means we're now coming around to our first cycle where we've been through all these beds all six of these beds now. And yeah, that's that shows why they've been so weedy now. The knock on effect of them being so weedy is that the overwintered onions have not been great, they're okay, they're still usable, they're still edible, they're just not great. And the show lots were pretty much lost. So I haven't done very well out of the shots at all. Not a huge problem because we can always make up for it next year. And as as we move on into the other beds, I think the the other beds seem to do a little bit better because we are pretty on top of the weeds in those beds, got the young ends and lots out they are now sitting in my greenhouse where they will dry I spoke about this last week, so I don't need to go into too much detail. Now I followed that up with using this stream around all the grass areas and the paths. Last week, my stream out ran out of string and I had to during the week go by some more string, which I then re wound into my streamer and that got that up and running the first time I actually reread the string however, I put the string in the wrong way I got a bit confused with the directions and I found that when I was using it, it was just kept throwing out more and more string and got tangled. That's not a huge problem I I've learned from that and I've re strung it again the correct way. Now I could have actually just bought a whole new spool with a string already attached and that's fine. Except that little plastic base gets a bit wasted then so I prefer sunny preferred by some new strain. It's cheaper as well. And just restring it and get it up and working. Now the three batteries I now have that streamer made light work of streaming whale the grass areas and actually it has improved the general look out of this Alemany It looks so much better. Having had that done.

Then after that I followed that up with a bit of weeding just cleaning out particularly I got creeping Buttercup inside my asparagus beds and that's a constant struggle to try and keep out which is one of the things that I'm always trying to do. I think what I'm going to do over the winter is get some seaweed to mochi asparagus bed. I've read that that will the Psalter net will help suppress weeds and in the asparagus will enjoy the salt format. So that's going to be my plan for the winter. I'm not far from the sea where I live so that's not a huge problem for me. Now at this point I was hungry so I went home it was about midday anyway and had some lunch. And then I did a few bits of high mowing the lawn and streaming the grass as well. And then I even came back down here this evening and I brought down some pots of butternut squash plants. I've been filling these up at home we'll get them all planted and ready to go. They're quite big 44 litre pots, butternut squash plants and quite big a nice and they've just gone on the area that I've covered with weed suppress a membrane in order to keep help keep the kid grass down and just make my life a little bit easier. They're all in place and they see areas not being wasted and it's going to work at keeping down the grass and then I've just been beyond watering and harvesting some bits I've harvested some of my first early potatoes a variety called our and pilot. They look absolutely delight So we can be using those in our tea tonight. Some more board beans, some more strawberries and of course a couple of onions to go with our tea. Basically now we are really rocking on and getting lots of harvests come into play. So that's what I've been doing today down on the allotments. Hopefully, we'll get back down here tomorrow and Monday and do a bit more

is Sunday the 27th of June 2021. I'm just in my potting shed at the moment, the shirt I built over winter don't spend much time in his shed lately, or as much as I used to, I should say, but I do love this shirt is nice just having a dedicated shed for my vegetable garden then antiques. Now it's actually started raining outside quite heavy, which is a pleasure really need the rain and it helped fill up my water buckets and water my plants for me. Now I'm going to meet today I've not been feeling great. So I've not really done a huge amount of work out in the garden. I have sown some cauliflower seeds. And I've got to also say some cabbage seeds sure that he and these going to go towards great in our Christmas dinner. So we're going to get cauliflower cabbages, getting seeds, so and get them in the ground eventually. And hopefully they'll turn into some good crops ready for our Christmas data. But also not just Christmas dinner, our winter crops that will be ready for us to enjoy and eat better. cauliflower is actually a purple headed variety I'm growing, just because I want to be a bit different. And I think we are lucky that we live with being grow your owners we can explore and experiment with different colours and different varieties of food that we can't get in supermarket. So I think from that reason the line, we need to make the most of it. I've also now my quail I've been keeping quiet for quite a while as no doubt you now and I absolutely love keeping them they're fantastic. They produce these tiny little wigs and the delicious the eggs, they are really delicious. And I I've said time and time again, I think quail are perfect for small gardens or people who can't keep chickens Bumble or grow their own food. And I stand by that. So today I have set the incubator up. And I've placed some of the eggs into the incubator on the view that we're going to try and hatch some more quails. I've done this many times in the past no doubt you may have. But this is the first time I've done it this year. And I submit late normally I would have gone ahead and done in in in several already read by now but I'm a bit behind on it this year. Don't mind because I find that we end up with too many anyway. So yeah, that we've now got 14 days where the eggs will turn. Luckily my new incubator does that automatically. And then we've got a week of just leaving them to be and see what hatches. And it's always such an exciting time I find how to ease quails, I find myself looking at the eggs, watching them seeing if they're going to hatch, watching the rock, watching them actually hatch and in these tiny little birds just pop out and run around. And it's it's an amazing sight. And one of the things that I'm very honoured to be able to do. Well, that is it for today. So just a little update. Hopefully Monday we're going to hit daddy Levin and harvest our garlic.

So it's Monday, the 28th of June 2021. Now, I said yesterday, I was hoping to go down the allotment today and harvest my garlic. Unfortunately, by the time I finished work, the weather today was a bit beneath a lot of showers. Although when the sun came out, it was nice. I didn't feel it was worth the risk. So when I finished work, I came home and what I've done I've come into my greenhouse I have at home now. I've got a mate, I don't actually spend much time in this greenhouse as of lately, it tends to look after itself. The the self watering system in here does a lot of the work for me. We've got chilies in here, we've got tomatoes in here, cucumbers and over jeans and a peach tree. It's all looking after itself. The peaches are growing nicely. The tomatoes in here are growing very, very nicely, very tall. And in fact what I'm doing this evening is actually just pinching out the side shoots. So well it's my time my do and it's most But as summer date, you get the main stem which grows up and then you get a branches that come out. In between those two in like the elbow if you like, we sometimes get another branch of form, and they do nothing. So the logic all the theory is we remove those little branches, so the plant doesn't waste any energy and focuses more on growing tomatoes. So I'm doing that quickly today. And yeah, we should soon begin tomatoes in here a little bit later than usual. But never mind. Never mind. Got to say in here everything is looking really good. I can see we've got a few chilies, now growing and are ready for harvesting and nice and ripe. cucumbers are looking good. Everything in here is just really, really good. It's all I can say it's looking after itself really quite nicely. Now earlier today, when I was at work, I popped into a higher Street, which we call it a sort of cheap department store with concerns if you like. And as many of you will no doubt know they do have a garden selection. And they quite often sell plots. Usually I don't buy much in away from plants from them anymore. But I happen to walk past the area and I saw they were selling off some pots of plants quite cheap. Now what do I mean by quite cheap? Well, they had a couple of blackberry brushes and a black currant bush being sold off for 10 pens. Ah, so I bought them. Now I probably don't need these. But they were looking in such a sorry state that I felt, I buy them at that price, I can look after them. And basically they need a good bit of love a bit of water and a bit of sunlight. And I'll be back to their usual growth. So I bought those, and I brought them home and first thing I've done is just put them in some water, so they can soak up some water there outside. So we get plenty of sunlight. And hopefully, pretty soon it will start to look better. And then I haven't wasted my 10 pets. Now 10 pence isn't very much money at all, you know, it's it peanuts really. So even if they don't survive, it's not the end of the world. Right. So that is this week's diary section up to date. please do let me know what you've been up to in your own allotment of gardens throughout this week. And I've got a little visit that I've taken to a community garden centre come up in just a moment. But first, let's have one of my commercial breaks. I would just like to ask you if you are enjoying this podcast, and perhaps you might consider signing up to the supporters club. It costs just five pounds a month. And for that you get access to exclusive behind the scenes content, including two extra podcasts each week only for supporting members. Added to that each month you will receive a gift pack contains a newsletter and at least six packets of seeds that can be sold that very much. By becoming a supporting member. Your monthly contribution helps me keep this podcast moving forward and to grow. It also helps me encouragement teach more people how to grow their own food, something I passionately believe everybody can do to become a member head to the French Grand podcast.co.uk. over this last year, I have started to realise a huge benefit for people to take part in community gardening. Now this is something I've often believed as a much better way to be able to feed people that when compared to something like food banks. Or recently, I discovered a new community project that I wanted to go and find out a bit more about.

But today, I've came up to a community garden project in Crawley, and I'm joined by Ed who's I get the impression You're the one in charge of this project.

Ed  14:01  
Yeah, sort of, not by design. It's just sort of happened. The plot really was donated plot. We've got two plots here. And they were they were donated to the charity I work for which is a cc y s Crawley community youth service and we have a building just across the there's a council owned playfield here. And the building that we have dormans has been a youth charity building a youth Art Centre actually since the 60s and we took it on about four or five years ago. The charity cc wires was already set up. But we came along with these grand ideas of starting a youth rock band or doing youth art sessions and because it's a youth Art Centre, it sort of took off so we've been getting funding and running clubs ever since then. And one of the clubs that we got a couple of years ago was a gardening club so the council gifted us these two allotment plots. And yeah, the time I was too busy, I came came and helped out. I've been growing virge for years when my dad used to run and a lot of local school. He did Forest School there as well. I want to retire from teaching in the classroom. He was happier outside. And so I've been doing it for years and they asked me to get involved. I was really busy with art stuff at the time. So I helped out where I could. Bob's he was, what's happened with the last couple of years. My a lot of my music and gigging stops, and I was able to come and take on responsibility of these, these plots. So we discussed before I decided to do it, no dig, which is what my dad was doing. When he was grant the school. That's what you do as well, Richard, then, and yeah, well, we got a little bit of funding in we got a whole load of mushroom compost. My next door neighbour works at tescos. So he got the people who were stacking the shelves to save all the massive Chris boxes. So I came up here on with pallets of cardboard and transformed the site Remy had been left for a year so I had a bit of work to do weeding and stuff. And obviously, when the second lockdown hit, I was pretty much on my own up here, just laying cardboard and shovelling a load of mushroom compost around but it's starting to take shape now. And it is a lot of work. So we've also got the Crawley gardening group who are a group of volunteers actually a sanctioned body now. They wanted to get plots around cruelly, they had a quite a few volunteers who wanted to just get growing and produce their kids to growing obviously, we're trying to get our young people up here to get out and fresh air and do a bit of manual labour. And to see where vege comes from, and that they can grow organic vege make it a normal thing and use it in our cookery classes. So between myself and the fantastic volunteers Cooley gardening group where we're endeavouring to make her make a thing of this Yeah,

The veg Grower podcast  17:09  
yeah. So I'm guessing your idea and your overall aim is that the kids that attended youth club, they've got a bit of outdoor space somewhere they can learn a bit about garden or get a bit interested in gardening and learn how to grow their own food in which they can then use on in their own homes and later life.

Ed  17:28  
Yeah, absolutely. I think Yeah, you're right is a life skill. If you if you teach it when they're young, it becomes a normal thing. I kind of had this idea I wanted to discuss and show to them that well, just where vedge comes from in the first place. It's not pre packaged polythene wrapped, you know, supermarket, yeah, left us, you know, side dish. And it's good, fun growing stuff. And I think that the correlation between gardening and then dinner is is a bit lost on some young people, some old people. So it's a kind of jewel sort of thing I want to say enjoy growing stuff, just for the love of being in the garden and grow and stuff. And then with our weekly cookery courses, I wanted to use some of the projects I've discussed before I haven't got any kind of like, I'm not delusional about the fact that they're just going to suddenly convert to eating purely vege and we are going to have to do some counting recipes in order for them to really take to their said the sauces soups and sauces for pastor and we've got a couple of pizza Robins so toppings of pizza, making our own tomato sauce, make it into stuff that's familiar enough for them to not be scared by it anymore, but and then explain the benefits of it eating organic and homegrown vegetables. So yeah, it's it's all part of that. Getting young people to, to engage with this. And also all of the stuff we run over there. Not everybody takes everything. Not everyone wants to play music, not everyone gets involved with the graffiti. And not everyone will get involved with this, but some of them will and as we've proven in the past enough of them do to make a difference. That's that's our that's our vision really to get more and more local people, especially the young people, but not exclusively, like said we've got a socialist prescription things starting where the GPS around Cooley will be able to prescribe a day volunteer in our allotment to help out rather than maybe medication or something for for mental health disorders. And it's the young offenders who need to do some community service. You know, this is a great way for young because we're a youth charity at the end of the day. And we quite often deal with some hearts reach kids. So yeah, getting involved with stuff like that it's a community thing. And this is just, this is how we're starting it. And we'll just see where it goes. Yeah, fantastic. So

The veg Grower podcast  20:10  
I think this just shows the value and the power that Guardian has that we can get into this with all these other children that are out there who may be lost in society and, and what have you. Well, we're at your first allotment, which is why by the entrance to the gas, convenient, very, very convenient. And what is this? I'm guessing it's probably about 10 metres by 10. metres.

Ed  20:33  
Yeah, 10 metres 10 metres that way, and slightly more, I think it's 30 foot by about 42. Maybe. But we've kind of lost this area, because they've they've all got a shed on. And this has become a storing ground for another as yet unconstructed shed. So yeah, I'd say, maybe 10 by 10, is what we're growing. Yeah, yeah.

The veg Grower podcast  20:57  
So just explain that. At the very top of this, we've got this Apex shed, which is looking a little bit on the tatty side, but still looks quite, quite strong. And then we've got the Saviour that every element has, where building materials are stored to go bricks, paving slabs, weed suppressing membrane, I'm guessing there's some more bits of wood in

Ed  21:20  
the shed is supposed to replace that one we were going to get where again, this whole kind of community, but we're going to get the men in sheds group to come up and put this shed together for us. And obviously, because of things that have happened in the last year and a half. That hasn't materialised yet. But that hopefully will happen soon, where we've got a couple of drums up here, a couple of kick drums, which is probably unusual for an allotment. We had a bit of a drum graveyard for years and years of youth music clubs. And then we used a couple of them as planters actually weird stuff grown in there a couple of years ago. Yeah, so I've let that all start happening again, but because it's mainly been me up there, and this bit, I'll just concentrate on this. It's clear.

The veg Grower podcast  21:59  
Yeah, we'll move away from this scruffy area that's on there every single a lot as no digger anything.

Ed  22:06  
Absolutely, I completely get that.

The veg Grower podcast  22:10  
We've we've got here some rows of what looks like potatoes, and they're actually looking, like really healthy do good free photo with some beautiful purple flowers. All looking really nice and healthy, obviously, doing something right. In order to get these looking. It's good. Yeah.

Ed  22:26  
I mean, it's, we put them in a little late actually. But because of all the frost we had in April, I put the ones in my garden, the same these are first earliest here. Rocket I think, and we've got Charlotte over their secondaries was actually put in first before I got these by other ones in my garden in a little earlier, and they're not actually doing as well. And I don't know whether that's to do with the quality of the soil here. Or possibly just to do with the fact that there were so many Frost's, you know, throughout April, but yeah, they seem to be doing great here. And I've just put the mushroom compost on cardboard directly on top of the we actually had the weed suppressant down over this lower half of the plot. So actually, we're doing pretty well, as far as keeping the weeds that I'm going to say it's a little bit more difficult up there, we've got some comfrey, which is quite difficult to get rid of. We'll keep we'll be diligent in it. But I mean, you have to chip away at it, don't you just little and often, and it's not completely pristine at the moment. And the more volunteers we get, hopefully, that's gonna change. But these potatoes are doing great. So yeah, I'm happy with that. I mean, I would say they're probably ready to harvest. I would say they're probably ready now. And I, I mean, I could just harvest them myself. But what I really want to do is have a day where we can kind of get loads of people up but we're planning on monthly sessions where we incorporate all of the groups including the the gardening group, including our youth clubs. I said, I'll get our co Dave to crank out the barbecue. And we'll do some all the fun jobs for those weekend days. I think the harvesting and planting more stuff.

The veg Grower podcast  24:09  
Definitely, definitely. Now moving further down. I can see you got some knitting under which one looks like some some sort of brassicas

Ed  24:17  
now. Yeah, but the brassicas under the netting is probably not doing what I intended it to do now because they grow so big at the back they've actually pushed it up so any butterflies that want to get in won't have too much of a hard time there. But I've been relying on the fact that it's been a bit rainy recently, that mesh is primarily to keep the butterflies after we've got brassicas all the way up to the end. We got Cole Robbie, which is bobbing up quite nicely now actually we go around.

The veg Grower podcast  24:44  
Yeah, let's go have a look. Oh yeah, I can see that nice purple bowls just so the patient their way through.

Ed  24:52  
They won't be too long now. And in actual fact, because of the way we're running, this will be kind of like Come and pick the ones that ready and leave the rest of them for the group the next week. We've got some calibrates.

The veg Grower podcast  25:07  
Oh wow, that is looking fantastic. Yeah, again, they're looking like they're ready for

Ed  25:14  
they're good to go. Yeah. Yeah, same with the cabbage. See that was split in so that's definitely ready I might harvest that and give it to one of the guys today actually move come and volunteer that their Greyhound so there I'm trying this you know, the whole Charles doubting method of double cropping in the season so get these fast why they even the calibre those calories there are they're slightly miniature variety. And they're quicker because I thinking getting on in season, I was like, we get those in harvest, and we can get something else in yeah, hopefully have another summer crop, you know. So I've got the the team down there, I left a load of seeds up in the better shed, which is on the other plot there. I cleared off a side as a propagation station, let's call it and I left a load of module tray on the child's dining module trays also has some seed trays there. And what's actually been really good is the whatsapp group I've created because it means I can communicate with all of these different volunteers without having to physically meet up all the time, you know, because obviously, people life gets in the way doesn't surprise me enough in person. The whatsapp group has been particularly good because you saw I'm in charge of this I, I basically had the vision for creating this no dig community charity allotment. And I wanted to do it no dig. And I, like I said before, like Charles and his team very kindly donated us his online course. So I've done that. And one of our young volunteers from the youth club actually has done it as well. So I've kind of got all that info and the the gardening group are really on board with that they want to do it as well. So I've just been able to kind of designate jobs, and advice and sort of teach, I kind of view it more as me being sort of like getting the information and then teaching it so that they can carry on doing it. And we were kind of just sort of seeing how it would work. I didn't know, I didn't have an exact plan for how it will work. And it looks like we've got enough space and we've got enough produce to kind of keep everyone happy here. And the volunteers were quite happy to just come and volunteer and not expect anything out of it. Because I didn't explain we were going to need the produce for the charity. But in actual fact, there's there's plenty here, you know, so everybody can they can kind of divvy out produce amongst their group and I can take whatever we need over to the, to the charity. And yeah, I think that's gonna work pretty well. So yeah, we've got the cabbages ready to come out. And more standard calibrates at the end here, which is why it's a bit higher. Yeah. That actually, you know, that's pretty much coming ready as well.

The veg Grower podcast  28:07  
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's bigger than my hand. Yeah. It's about open. So yeah, I can see them as well. And then you got a few onions. Yeah. So this this big,

Ed  28:16  
we're actually standing on here. This is I left this clear, because I thought we bring up some old beans which, which about ready to go in now actually, as well. They're going to be popular, I think. So the whole bed for them. And then yeah, we got garlic, onions from sets here. I've got some multistone beetroot underneath that mesh. And and again, the rest of that I'm I might get into so carrots for autumn in there because I know they want to do that. And then these two that well, all of these are 44 foot by 30 foot. Yeah, these these beds and we've got more, we got six. So the far, two there, that's where I'm gonna be putting our polytunnel, which might got very exciting that slightly nerve racking because we're going to have to assemble it ourselves. But I've got, I've assembled a crack team, I believe. And on a nice day, we're going to come up and it's from first tunnels, which again was suggested by Charles. And they've got some really helpful videos on how to construct this stuff. So hopefully, we'll be able to navigate that and get that up there. But that's I've done I've got a 10 foot, which will cover both of those beds by 25 foot so we'll have two and a half foot either end. It's kind of access and I've got sliding doors. So yeah, that's in bits in my back garden at the moment, but yeah, come down here. Hopefully soon. We'll get that up. And I mean, we're, we've kind of missed sort of tomato. I've got the tomatoes in our old pioneer tongue over there, which has a few holes in it, but I think that'd be all right and now acute the worst of the rain off anyway. But we'll certainly be able to overwinter some stuff in the polytunnel and then next year And it will come into his own.

The veg Grower podcast  30:02  
So at the moment the volunteers are working on the other plot to see what they're doing. At this point, Ed and I ventured over to the second allotment plot that this charity is running, and busy hard at work today was a couple of children and a couple of volunteers. And it was absolute pleasure to see now this plot is pretty recently taken over, there's a lot of work to do before they can even start planting. But today, the children and volunteers were busy pulling out some weeds, and even planted out some beetroot and parsnips. Now I was lucky enough that one of the volunteers called Lisa was good enough to share some time with us and take time out of our project in order to have a bit of a chat. So firstly, I asked what Lisa's role was in the project.

Lisa  30:55  
I'm the chairperson or Crawley community garden. So I set it up with my friend Danielle, about probably 15 months ago, maybe a little longer Bob over in lockdown before needed something for the community. Not everyone has access to gardens, Danielle lives in a flat. So she has no access to a garden. She's got two children one on the way and want to get the children involved and stuff. So yeah, I thought it would be a good project to get everyone involved in.

The veg Grower podcast  31:28  
Now I can see already the kids have been busy down here today what they've been doing.

Lisa  31:34  
So they've put in some beet root. While they've weeded the bed first. barehanded, some of them, and they're all messy. And then they put in a whole heap of beat right? Which I'm hoping they've done in a good way but get what we get. And if they've grown it, they're more likely to want to eat it when they harvest it as well. Which is what I find.

The veg Grower podcast  32:01  
It certainly looks from here like they've been doing pretty good job. What's your name? So

Unknown Speaker  32:08  
no space in any more beds? There's not enough space for the bassinet. What's your name? jack? Yeah, yeah, there's no more space for any of the parsnips in the bed. Wow, they filled it up has it been fun? So right we can find somewhere else from sky. Yeah, as if we been fun plugging in all these stuff out today. Yeah, yeah.

The veg Grower podcast  32:29  
Good answer. Thank you. Yeah, so they've they filled it up this room and I say for the about two metres by five metre bed. filled it up with passive SAS, a lot of parsnips,

Lisa  32:44  
a lot of parsnips. Let's hope that we can get meat in some of these. If not, we've got ideas what to do with the stock because think in soup kitchens. You know, things that get out Tim food would they like fresh food? You know, food parcels everyone struggled during during COVID. And I think people are still struggling now, aren't they? So get things done with work and stuff. We'll definitely find some my forms to go if the kids don't eat them. Yeah, I don't mind to pass on my race, you know.

The veg Grower podcast  33:23  
So I'm just looking around on this, obviously, we've got these. We've got small little greenhouse. On one side, we've got this polytunnel, which has tomatoes, that one, then we've got another larger bed in front of us, which I believe you've been clearing out this week.

Lisa  33:37  
Yeah. Last week we had last Sunday, we had huge group of volunteers down and they've done a maze and the kids are involved. We had people from light as young as jack, who's eight, up to the ages in their 70s and 80s. Doing it so it was really nice to bring light, the two ages together as well. And they're all working together Bresson That was really good.

The veg Grower podcast  33:58  
we've really tried to get volunteers involved. Has it been difficult getting volunteers in?

Lisa  34:04  
It wasn't at first, a lot of people help because we've got two projects we struggle with who's going to be at what projects because obviously we've gotten a meydenbauer projects as well. So it depends what area people are in whether they can get to the other one as well. So yeah, that's the only struggle we've had really.

The veg Grower podcast  34:24  
Yeah, yeah, getting people interested. Yeah. It's an interesting concept and what's your own overall aim for this?

Lisa  34:32  
Basically, just to get people out there. Gardening understanding where food comes from the need for people to like grow their own food and grow it locally because nothing comes locally anymore, hardly ever bringing like the children together. with older people as well socially isolated, older people. You might have people that come here, they don't even lift off a spate and then just sit there and chat. You know, because there's socially isolated, they'll just enjoy the social aspects of it. They might even not interact with any children. So it gives them that as well. And yeah, just like transcending social boundaries, so it'd be nice to get people involved from like different communities, we are in contact with the Sikh community, we're hoping to get some volunteers involved from there. Like, how wonderful would it be for them to grow things that are culturally appropriate to them, asked, grow things that are appropriate for us, and to share your knowledge of what you do with it, you know, it's really good idea to just bring these people together. And it brings more understanding as well, like, you know, the children probably wouldn't interact with these types of people, like, you know, these social people. And it's nice to give them the understanding, you know,

The veg Grower podcast  35:50  
it's a community led project is about bringing the community together. Yeah, yeah. Well, I gotta say, I'm absolutely fascinated with what's going on here. And I look forward to seeing what happens in the future. If anybody wants to find out more about community have a website or anything that people can go and find out.

Lisa  36:08  
And we have a Facebook page Crawley community garden, and all the details are on there. And the email address is Crawley community garden@gmail.com anybody wants any more information or to get involved, they can email us on that or pop a message on the Facebook page anytime. Someone will get back.

Unknown Speaker  36:28  
antastic Thank you very much for your time today. Well, I want to thank both Ed and Lisa, for their time and taking me around that they community garden. It's certainly something I'm going to be keeping a close eye on and following their progress. So please do go check them out in their Facebook page. It's, of course, links will be on the website. Should you want to find out a bit more. It's also give me a few ideas and thoughts about start my own community garden project, but it's going to be something a long way off. Now. If anybody else has ever thought about starting a community garden project, or has any experience with a community garden project, then please do let me know what your thoughts and what your discovery has been on this very subject. If you want to get in touch it's Richard at veg Grower podcast.co.uk for email. Or if you head to the website at The veg Grower podcast dot code at UK where you can leave a voicemail or you can leave a comment on the bottom of this blog post. And of course you can find me on social media just search for The veg Grower podcast. We'll be back again next week with another podcast so until then, please take care

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